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Infosys CY24Q4 earnings call key takeaways
Demand Environment
- Clients continuing to prioritize cost takeout over discretionary initiatives
- But spending towards new growth areas like AI, cloud adoption, cybersecurity, data and analytics is observed
- Clients have started to view IT investments more favorably post-election-related certainty and interest rate cuts in recent months
- Have built 4 small language models for banking, IT operations, cyber, and enterprises broadly
- Have 2.5bn parameters, built using proprietary data sets
- Developing over 100 new GenAI agents for deployment
- Have live deployments, not just proof of concept
- Typical business outcomes includes:
- Time reduction
- Cost reduction
- Greater impact with customer base and growth
- Working closely with GenAI partner ecosystem to develop joint solutions
- Case studies:
- Client: Large Technology Company
- Project: Developed a Generative AI-powered research agent that generated comprehensive solutions within seconds for requests made for the product support teams
- Client: Professional Services Company
- Project: Created 3 audit agents to intelligently automate multiple tasks
- Client: Large Technology Company
- Using GenAI for internal productivity
- Small and large language models helping with software development
- CY24Q4 Revenue of $4,939mn, +6.1% YoY in CC
- Regions (in order of growth):
- India +40.1% YoY in CC
- Europe +12.2% YoY in CC
- North America +4.8% YoY in CC
- Returned to positive growth trajectory after four quarters
- ROW -11.1% YoY in CC
- Verticals (in order of growth):
- Manufacturing +10.7% YoY in CC
- Automotive sector in Europe continues to remain slow
- However, there is a continued momentum in areas such as engineering, IoT, supply chain, cloud ERP and digital transformation
- The benefits of vendor consolidation are being more apparent, contributing to the growth of existing accounts and the establishment of new relationships
- The pipeline is healthy, with a mix of large and small deals and a focus on cost takeout and portfolio rationalization
- Energy, Utilities, Resources and Services +8.6% YoY in CC
- Macro headwinds and supply-demand imbalances continue to influence spending patterns
- Growth in demand for electricity to cater to data centers is expected to bring in more investment in energy
- Resources clients are more watchful about the changing geopolitical dynamics impacting the supply chain
- Discretionary spend remains muted
- Investment in industry clouds and energy transition solutions have helped win multiple deals
- Hi Tech +8.4% YoY in CC
- Continues to remain soft
- Some clients are reducing the run cost and pausing discretionary investments
- Seeing opportunities in cost takeout deals, including legacy product management and managed services based business operations
- Programs are driven by cloud computing and new tech like AI and ML
- Life Sciences +6.3% YoY in CC
- Financial Services +6.1% YoY in CC
- Saw third consecutive quarter of volume growth
- U.S. continues to grow strongly in this quarter and over the past few quarters
- See discretionary spend increase in capital markets, mortgages, cards and payments
- Have seen a revival in European Financial Services during Q3
- Expansion into Nordics, Middle East, and Southeast Asia is also contributing to growth
- Communication +4.0% YoY in CC
- Continues to face volatile macro environment, leading to growth challenges and rising OPEX pressure
- Discretionary spending continues to be soft and current year growth is driven mainly by recent large deal wins focused on efficiency and consolidation
- Manufacturing +10.7% YoY in CC
- Others +3.2% YoY in CC
- Retail +0.1% YoY in CC
- Seeing an improvement in US with discretionary pressures easing
- Companies are looking at investing in brand and technology initiatives
- S/4HANA migration deadline is driving budget allocation to make enterprise workload compliant
- Leveraging Infosys Topaz to showcase enhanced business value in predictive analytics and real-time insights and strategic decision-making
- CY24Q4 TCV of 17 large deal wins was $2.5bn
- 63% was net new
- Vertical-wise, signed 5 deals in Financial Services, 4 in Communication, 3 in Manufacturing, 2 each in Retail and EURS and one in Hi-Tech
- Region-wise, signed 11 large deals in America and 6 in Europe, also includes a BOT deal to set up a GCC in India
- Large deal pipeline has become stronger in CY24Q4
- Seeing a 3.6% 9-month pricing realization tailwind
- Seeing pricing as stable at this point in time
- Decrease in share of to 5 clients is due to furloughs
- CY24Q4 Operating margin of 21.3%, +80 bps YoY
- Headwinds
- 70 bps from furloughs and lower working days, offset by higher leave utilization and others
- FY'24 comp increase, higher variable payout, impact due to amortization of intangibles from recent acquisitions and large deal ramp-up
- Tailwinds
- 40 bps from currency movements
- 30 bps from Project Maximus
- 20 bps from lower costs relating to provisions for post-sales customer support and expected credit loss provision, offset by higher third-party costs
- Headwinds
- Wage hikes will happen in two phases
- 1st phase starting January 1st
- 2nd phase starting April 1st
- Indian wages will increase 6% to 8% on average, with high performers getting more
- Overseas increases will be low single digit
- CY24Q4 Total employees of 323,379, +5,591 QoQ, +716 YoY
- Second consecutive quarter of headcount addition
- CY24Q4 Voluntary Attrition % (LTM - IT Services) of 13.7%, +80 bps YoY
- CY24Q4 Utilization (excluding trainees) of 86%, +170 bps YoY
- 83% to 85% is the target range
- Targeting 15,000 freshers for the year, with 20,000 expected for next year
- FY25 Revenue growth revised to 4.5% to 5.0% in CC
- CY25Q1 has lower working days
- FY25 Operating margin unchanged at 20% to 22%