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TCS CY24Q4 Earnings Call Key Takeaways
Demand Environment
- Customer priorities continue to remain centered around cost optimization and business transformation
- Expect client IT budgets to remain similar in CY25 with a positive bias
- With the reduction in the interest rates, easing of inflation, and reduced uncertainty with the new US administration taking over, expect the discretionary demand to strengthen
- Verticals:
- Seeing early signs of revival in discretionary spend in BFSI and Retail
- Manufacturing, Life Sciences, and Healthcare should start seeing growth in the medium term as near-term challenges have bottomed out this quarter
- GenAI, AI, and cloud services continue to see significant growth
- Customers are gearing up to leverage AI by focusing on application modernization and cloud
- Helping clients build LLMs, benchmark their performance, and enhance their efforts in quantization
- Clients are investing in
- Agentic AI adoption
- Represents the next stage of maturity in the exponentially evolving space of AI
- Adds reasoning capabilities to large language models
- Moving beyond initial wave of chatbots and RAG deployments of GenAI
- Allows to design, train, and deploy agents that solve high-value business problems
- Building a robust data foundation
- Technology modernization
- SAP S/4 HANA transformations
- Cloud engagements
- Agentic AI adoption
- CY25Q4 Revenue of $7.539bn, +3.6% YoY in SD, +4.5% YoY in CC
- Vertical (in order of growth):
- Energy Resources and Utilities +3.4%
- Consumer +1.1%
- Primarily driven by the improvement seen in retail in all major markets
- Travel, transportation, and hospitality performed well in UK, EMEA, and APAC, but considerably slowed in the US due to a market specific issue and strained customer profitability
- Retail growth strong in the fashion apparel sub-segments
- BFSI +0.9%
- Leading adopter of AI, GenAI, and other cutting edge technologies
- Manufacturing +0.4%
- Continue to see softness in CY24Q3 due to a combination of macro and industry specific issues in auto and aerospace, which have faced challenges from supply chain unrest and the labor market
- Feel it will bottom out in CY25Q1 and growth will come back
- Continue to capture demand on the back of significant investments in factor of the future, smart manufacturing, software vehicles, and GenAI
- Technology & Services -0.4%
- Client IT budgets continued to remain flat
- Life Sciences Healthcare -4.3%
- Client specific challenges called out last quarter are largely stabilized
- MedTech industry is undergoing rapid transformation driven by the shift to intelligent devices and predictive AI, GenAI in genomics, cell therapy, and personalization
- Customers are also investing significantly in scaling their digital manufacturing capabilities and building a resilient supply chain
- Buyers waiting for more policy clarity in the US until discretionary spending returns
- Communications and Media -10.6%
- Continues to encounter challenges with demand, primarily led by technology-driven cost optimization
- There are encouraging signs of a rebound in IT spending as telcos advance their efforts to expand into adjacent businesses while enhancing efficiency in their core operations
- Geographies (in order of growth):
- India +70.2%
- Middle East +15%
- Latin America +7%
- Asia Pacific +5.8%
- UK +4.1%
- Europe +1.5%
- North America -2.3%
- CY25Q4 Order Book TCV of $10.2bn
- Highlight of the quarter was exceptionally strong and broad-based TCV, especially strong in:
- North America $5.9bn
- BFSI $3.2bn
- Consumer Business $1.3bn
- Highlight of the quarter was exceptionally strong and broad-based TCV, especially strong in:
- Saw the deferral of some projects based upon the ROI expectation which saw reprioritization
- Seeing a decrease in the deal cycle by a few weeks on deals greater then $20mn
- Verticals:
- Good deals wins in BFSI, CPG
- Geographies:
- Europe has one of the best deals wins
- CY25Q4 Operating Margin of 24.5%, +40 bps QoQ, -50 bps YoY
- Headwinds
- Furloughs
- Q3 seasonality
- Tailwinds
- Headwinds
- Margin aspiration remains 26% to 28%
- CY25Q1 Closing headcount of 607,354, -5,370 QoQ
- QoQ reduction was due to seasonality
- Don’t see a correlation between headcount and growth in the short-term
- LTM attrition of 13.0% in IT Services
- Awarded 25,000 promotions, total year 110,000